122 Texas K9 Teams – With Royce Ilse, Kevin Winters & Joni Owen

Since the early 20th century, the term “K9” has stood as both a clever play on words and a symbol of unity and partnership between law enforcement officers and their four-legged companions. Recognizing their increasingly valuable contributions to public service, the Conservation Canine Officers Association (CCOA) was founded in 2020 to promote professional development and support for conservation canine teams in North America and beyond. From the CCOA’s annual conference in Newry, Maine, we sit down with Texas wardens and K9 handlers Royce Ilse, Kevin Winters, and Joni Owen to explore the world of conservation K9 handling, the roots and growth of the CCOA, and more!

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Here’s what we discuss:

  • Texas K9 officers are currently Labrador Retrievers and German Shepherds
  • Different K9s are trained in different specialties
  • Dogs will provide both obvious and subtle cues when alerting
  • Received training in Utah
  • Currently seven trained conservation K9s in the state
  • Membership in CCOA has helped build connections
  • Training a cadaver dog
  • K9s can distinguish between human and animal remains
  • Giving up a K9 partner
  • Building partnerships at the state and federal level
  • The first shark fin case in San Antonio
  • Training to differentiate between different species and cuts of fish
  • How boat inspections are conducted
  • Combatting the illegal sea turtle trade
  • CCOA is on Facebook
  • Hopes for the future of the organization
  • K9s can be used in multiple complex situations
  • Kevin’s hat!
  • Support the CCOA

Credits

Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores

Producer: Jay Ammann

Art & Design: Ashley Hannett

Research / Content Coordinator: Stacey DesRoches

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100B Celebrating 100 Episodes!

In this special bonus episode, our hosts and producer get together with fan favorites Kris MacCabe of Maine, Benny Richards of Texas, and New Hampshire’s own Col. Kevin Jordan. Join us for a fun and wide-ranging chat looking back on 100 episodes, and looking forward to 100 more!

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Credits

Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores

Producer: Jay Ammann

Art & Design: Ashley Hannett

Research / Content Coordinator: Stacey DesRoches

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072 Benny Richards – Texas

Benny Richards is a former Game Warden for Hunt County, Texas. Richards worked for over 25 years for the Texas Department of Parks and Wildlife, and is well known for his appearances on “Lone Star Law”. During his time as a warden, he earned accomplishments such as the Texas Parks and Wildlife Officer of the Year (2015) and the Shikar-Safari International Wildlife Officer of the year award. In this episode, Wayne interviews Benny on his role as a Texas warden and the stories of “Lone Star Law”.

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Here’s What We Discuss:

  • “Tales of a Texas Game Warden” by Benny Richards
  • Virtual book signing: December 2nd at 7:00pm
  • Recently retired
  • Everything is real
  • New season of Lone Star Law is coming
  • Game warden and peace officer
  • First interaction with a game warden
  • Different trails
  • Cocaine in the taxi cab
  • Dirty deeds under the cover of dark
  • Trip to jail makes them pass out
  • Phones change everything
  • Moving the bucket
  • Watch to get evidence
  • Wardens answer more than just outdoor calls
  • Housing development
  • Landowner permission
  • Diverse environment 
  • Upcoming children’s book
  • Moose antler

060 For the Fallen – Justin Hurst, Texas EOW: March 17, 2007

Justin Hurst was a game warden who worked for the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department. A graduate of Texas A&M, he had a passion for the outdoors and worked to protect it. Even before he was a warden, he worked as a waterfowl guide and educated people on hunting. After 5 years of service as a warden, he was involved in an incident where a man was suspected of hunting illegally. While backing up another game warden on a pursuit, the suspect’s vehicle was spiked. As he got out, the suspect fired at the approaching wardens and deputies. Hurst was struck multiple times while returning fire, and was med-flighted to a nearby hospital. A day later, on his 34th birthday, Justin succumbed to his injuries. Justin is an example of an exemplary game warden with a strong work ethic and a desire to educate his community. 

His sacrifice will not be forgotten. 

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Here’s What We Discuss:

  • Chaplin Scott Mcintosh leads in prayer
  • Start of Justin’s love of wildlife
  • Dad, we need to help these hawks 
  • Love of duck and geese
  • Read the bands on geese
  • Went to Texas A&M, never went to a football game
  • Applied for the academy 
  • First of his class
  • Back home with people he knew
  • Make personal contacts with farmers and ranchers
  • A knocking at the door, a flashlight
  • Justin did not survive
  • His eyes were used as an organ donation
  • 25 game wardens at the house to support us
  • Kept the media away
  • 10 units involved in the incident
  • Dashcam video recorded
  • The pursuit 
  • Gets cornered at the cemetery and starts firing
  • Hits Justin; med-flighted to the hospital
  • I asked God “why did you take my son?”
  • Effects of a LEO death on the family
  • Weeks after, wardens were around 24/7
  • 500 law enforcement at Justin’s funeral
  • Cremated and released into the bay
  • Ashes put in Justin’s projects 
  • Offered life without parole; refused
  • Jury convicted him guilty of 1st degree murder with execution
  • All appeals denied
  • We pick the day he’s executed
  • A long process; very educational 
  • Only could bring a driver’s license the penitentiary 
  • He never said anything
  • Motorcycle groups revved engines during final statement
  • Parent groups for parents who lost LEO sons and daughters
  • Support of organizations
  • I want to make sure our wardens are supported
  • Justin wanted to educate and teach