053 Carlos Gomez – Oklahoma Department of Wildlife – Part II

Carlos Gomez, a retired Game Warden for the Oklahoma Department of Wildlife, sits down with Wayne in the continuation of his interview. Though now retired after a 41 year career, Carlos is still an active outdoorsman and a member of the National Wild Turkey Federation. In this episode, they discuss cases Carlos has been involved with and his interactions with other wardens.

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Here’s What We Discuss:

  • International Game Warden Magazine
  • Operation Cody
  • Interactions and cases with Todd A. Vandivert
  • The money-maker case
  • When to bluff
  • The praying poacher
  • Keeping the racks, donating the meat
  • 16 deer, 3 county warrants
  • Enjoy the cuffs
  • Poacher suicide

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Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores
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052 Carlos Gomez – Oklahoma Department of Wildlife

Carlos Gomez spent 41 years as a game warden in the Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation – 34 years serving Tulsa County and 7 years serving in Oklahoma County. He is the only game warden in Oklahoma’s history to spend his entire career in urban areas. Despite this, his time was filled with hunting and fishing interactions, as well as education of the public. In his retirement, he actively enjoys the outdoors and regularly attends meetings with conservation clubs.

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Here’s What We Discuss:

  • Wayne’s experience with Oklahoma
  • Carlos’s energy
  • Operation Jersey
  • Undercover turtles
  • Wildlife war with China
  • Importance of prosecution
  • Judge shopping
  • Educate and build relationships with violators
  • Game wardens are hunters too
  • Interactions with Tiger King
  • Stolen polar bear
  • Carlos’s deer case
  • Stay tuned for part two!

051 Brian Albert – Maryland DNR

After 28 years, Capt. Brian Albert has retired, but that doesn’t mean he’s done working. Brian spent time in the Air Force and then became a Ranger with Maryland’s Eastern Shore. He also worked as a Public Information Officer and was in charge of a criminal investigations division during his career.  Despite retirement, Brian is heavily involved with Maryland’s International Wildlife Crimestoppers and other conservation organizations. 

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HERE’S WHAT WE DISCUSS:

  • John’s New Mic!
  • Waterways Criminal Investigation
  • Suicides – Discovered by Hunters, Covered by Game Wardens
  • Maryland DNR Captain
  • Executive Director Maryland Wildlife Crimestoppers
  • Chesapeake Bay
  • Stripers, Crabs, Turkey, Deer
  • 40% of the Time on the Water
  • Rockfish and Striper are the Same Thing
  • Cast Nets and 77 Rockfish, $500 Per Fish Fine
  • Eastern Shore MD State Park
  • Fort Frederick State Park
  • Marijuana In the Campgrounds
  • Alaskan State Troopers
  • Exhausting Hours to Make a Case
  • An Old Dodge Ram Charger
  • Farmers Don’t Want People Driving in Fields
  • A Red Dot Target
  • Suicide in a Kayak
  • Inner Harbor Baltimore Coverage Area
  • Freddie Gray Riots
  • More Positive than Negative, Media Sells the Negative
  • Participation in Local Events
  • Jerry Kirkwood
  • An Out of State Duck Case
  • Illegal Deer Kill on Out of State Pennsylvania Resident
  • Stopping the Spread of CWD

050 Sean Cronsberry – Ontario Warden

Wayne and John discuss a warden life across the border in Canada with special guest Sean Cronsberry. Sean is a dog handler and warden with the Ontario Ministry of Natural Resources and Forestry.  He’s handled several interesting cases with his K-9 companions Timber and Blaze.  Sean covers a large area and has a unique area that involves the commercial fishing industry out of the great lakes. 

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Here’s What’s Discussed in this Episode:

  • Ontario Ministry of Natural Resources and Forestry
  • A Professional Mouthful
  • Warden’s Watch International – Crossing the Border into Canada
  • Cases with the United States – Michigan, Lacey Act, US Fish and Wildlife
  • Working in Quebec and Needing an Interpreter
  • Ice Fishing on Lake Simcoe
  • Deputy Conversation Officer Program
  • 1000 Hours of Volunteering
  • Fish House and Open Holes
  • Whitefish and Lake Trout
  • Great Lakes and the Commercial Fishery
  • Southwestern Region Ontario
  • A K-9 Handler
  • Timber, a Chocolate Lab
  • Finding the Right Dog
  • K-9 Blaze, a Yellow Lab
  • Timber Would Wrap Up Cases on His Own
  • Losing a Service Dog
  • Into the Lions Den
  • A Good Game Warden Story
  • A Trespass to Hunt Call
  • Finding Poached Turkeys, Only with a Dog
  • A Sudden Death Call, Blaze Opened the Case Wide Open
  • Finding a Bullet
  • Labs- English vs US
  • The Gun Powder Wag
  • Tighty Whities
  • Shooting Towards the Road
  • The Cases we Remember Most are the Cases we Didn’t Make
  • 99% Time the Dogs Will Find the Evidence
  • Protecting the Interest of Other Hunters
  • Sleeping in the Truck after 8 Hour Trip
  • 3 Rotten Fish in a Net
  • 165 Field Officers
  • Naming Dogs, the Timber Wolf
  • Spreading the Word for Wardens, a Way of Life

049 John Anderson – Nevada Department of Wildlife

John Anderson is a Game Warden with the Nevada Department of Wildlife.  John patrols hundreds of acres in some of Nevada’s best elk habitat and has seen his fair share of incredible cases over the years.   John shares with us 3 of his best poacher cases along with some stories about how he became a game warden under what might be considered an unusual turn of events.  

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Here’s What’s Discussed in this Episode:

  • Dedicated to Capt Brian Allard
  • Ducks Unlimited Podcast
  • Warden’s Watch Gear
  • The Case Unit 231 Nevada to Utah
  • A Poached Elk
  • Was It Depredation?
  • A SpotLight on Camera and an ATV
  • The Flat Brim Army
  • The Whole Crime on Game Cam
  • Take a Look at Zachary – Instagram and Facebook
  • Felony Conviction, No Jail Time
  • $20,000 Fine
  • Nevada Isn’t the Wild West
  • The Crime Checked All the Boxes
  • What Changed? Family and Kids
  • Matlock, My Dad’s Kid
  • Connection with the Outdoors, but Unguided
  • Flintlock Muzzleloaders from Scratch
  • Poached a Doe and an Elk in Yellowstone
  • A 9 Year Old, an Apple Orchard, a Tag, and a Doe
  • An Honest Poacher, No Lying
  • No Electricity, Middle of Nowhere
  • Dove into the Application Process, Nevada was Hiring
  • There’s Always Evidence, and Generally Witnesses
  • Sometimes Your Only Friends Are Other Game Wardens
  • Treasuring Civilian Relationships
  • Life Balance
  • 70 Active Prosecutions
  • 2013 Writing a Warrant
  • Deer and Elk Tags, Undocumented Immigrants Poaching
  • Non-Game
  • Las Vegas Metro and Mexican Cartels
  • Random Meat in Ziplock Bags
  • Samples Tested, 5 Different Deer
  • Timing is Everything
  • Starts with a Little Tip, then it Grows
  • CSI from Crime to the Court, Homicide School
  • A Fork on the Left G4 Identification Measure
  • Working with Maggots, Stages, Time of Death
  • 3rd Case No Secrets
  • Photographs Contain Metadata
  • Great Witnesses are Instrumental
  • COVID is Messing Up Jury Trials
  • Usually Don’t Get Jail Time
  • 20 Days in Jail is a Big Message
  • Massachusetts and New Jersey Last Ones IWC
  • Reciprocation License Loss (Nationwide and Canada)
  • Sheep Cases are Rare – Serious Dedicated Hunters Typically
  • Transformation from Child to Adult

048 Scott Fischer – Arizona Game and Fish

Scott Fischer is an Officer with Arizona Game and Fish and also the director of the department’s Operation Game Thief program.  Scott and Wayne discuss the qualification for becoming an Arizona warden, Arizona’s outdoor opportunities for big game outdoors men and women,  and a few operations that Scott has been on trying to stop illegal drug trafficking.  They also discuss how important the community is to assisting with illegal poaching through Operation Game Thief. 

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  • Arizona Command Structure
  • Law Enforcement Program Manager
  • Wildlife Managers 92 State Wide
  • Voluntary Reporting at the End of the Season
  • Location, Permits, Time Frame Compliance
  • Higher Education Requirement in AZ
  • Qualifications for Arizona Game and Fish
  • Education Component
  • Background History, Abuse
  • Dream to Be a Game Warden
  • Pool of Law Enforcement Dwindling
  • Loosening the Reins for Applicants
  • Scientific Method Biology
  • 600 Applicants Down to 120 Today
  • Minimum Standard Physical Regs
  • Operation Game Thief
  • Coos vs Coues
  • Dispatcher to Officer
  • 2000 Sq. Mile District to Cover
  • Cactus and Agriculture
  • Playing Dumb Cop
  • Sticking to Lies
  • Cal Fish and Game and Wildlife
  • Wildlife Canine Handler
  • The Detail, Treat it Like a Homicide
  • Big Elk, Lottery Program
  • Mountain Lion, Deer Archery Over the Counter
  • Bear Season
  • Elk Over the Counter – Low Success
  • Shorts and a T-Shirt Hunting
  • Desert Mule Deer
  • Illegal Border Activity
  • High Human Traffic High Human Traffic
  • Cowboy Type, Let’s Go Get Him
  • I’m in Good Shape, But…
  • Drug Runners are In Better Shape
  • 12 Illegals and a Big Load of Dope
  • Moose Case on International Lines
  • State Dispatchers are Life Lines
  • Arizona is Diverse
  • We Need the Public Thru Operation Game Thief

046 Matt Holmes Part II – The OHRV Crash

Matt Holmes, a NH Fish and Game Conservation Officer and regular on North Woods Law, jumps in the pick up truck with Wayne to talk more about Matt’s career as a Game Warden.  They discuss in detail Matt’s OHRV crash that occurred in June 2020 while on radar patrol.  Special narration and commentary from Bob Mancini.

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Here’s What We Discuss:

  • Evolution of OHRV Riding in NH
  • The North Woods Law Crew
  • The Bear that Killed the Chickens
  • A Errant Discharge of a High Power Rifle
  • 2 Vehicle Crash, Running Radar
  • Connecting with Bob Mancini
  • 2 Side By Sides at Excessive Speed
  • Blue Lights On
  • A Red and White Collision
  • Did I Break My Back? Can I Breath?
  • Familiar Faces in the ER
  • Pain Level
  • Physical Therapy and Back to Work
  • My Favorite Trainee
  • Just Wanted to Clarify that Your Not From Maine

045 Matt Holmes – Part I

054 The Case of Kate Matrosova featuring Ty Gagne Warden's Watch

Kate Matrosova was a highly experienced hiker from Southern Siberia, Russia. She came to America on a student visa and successfully graduated with a masters degree in Financial Engineering. Though she worked for many firms on Wall Street, she also had a passion for the outdoors. She had a passion for climbing big mountains such as Kilimanjaro and McKinley, and was an active marathon runner. At 32 years old, she hiked the Presidential Mountain Range of the White Mountains in New Hampshire carrying light gear for a day hike. Unfortunately, she never made it out alive. The weather conditions reached -85F and 141 MPH winds. Rescue teams attempted to reach her after she activated her communications device, but to no avail. Kate Matrosova was discovered a day later. Ty Gagne is the CEO of Primex, a public entity risk pool based in New Hampshire, and is also a certified wilderness first responder. He wrote the book Where You’ll Find Me about Kate’s experiences and those who were a part of her recovery. In this podcast, he discusses his own personal involvement in the outdoors, his perspective on Kate's case, and how he wrote the book. Thin Green Line Podcast Copper Pig Brewery Hunt of a Lifetime Maine's Operation Game Thief NH Wildlife Heritage International Wildlife Crime Stoppers Here's What We Discuss: The book Where You Will Find Me Ty and Wayne’s experience with hiking The easy mistakes of hiking The beginning of Kate’s story The White Mountains Challenges of winter hiking The conditions of Kate’s hike Her plan and the issues around it Kate’s drive to succeed The group that got her out The issue with personal location devices Ty’s interviews with on-scene wardens The drive of law enforcement and how to keep them safe Mental health of volunteers and law enforcement The changes at altitude Retracing Kate’s story for a book The good out of a tragedy Credits Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores Producer: Jay Scott Ammann Social Media/Marketing: Morgan Day Find More Here: Website Apple Podcasts Spotify Facebook Twitter Instagram Stitcher Tunein Libsyn Google Play YouTube RSS

Matt Holmes, a NH Fish and Game Conservation Officer and regular on North Woods Law, jumps in the pick up truck with Wayne this week to talk about Matt’s career as a Game Warden.  Wayne and Matt go way back and have lots of stories to tell on this episode.

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Here’s What We Discuss:

  • Shooting and teaching hunter safety
  • Not loosing face with the court
  • Integrity
  • A Short Burst of Automatic Fire
  • Losing a Wheel on the Cruiser
  • A Repeater and the Cats Out of the Bag
  • I’m Not from Maine, Despite the NH Accent
  • Typing Skills, Old Fashion Man in Modern World
  • Driving with Code 3
  • Robert’s Brook Washout
  • We All Bring a Skill Set
  • Multiple Does in Parts and 22 Bullets
  • Irate Because a Deer Was Wasted
  • Hit Em, Hit Em Simultaneously
  • A White Suite and Moose Necropsy
  • Only One Party Didn’t Return the 2nd Weekend
  • Mass Residence Listing Their Firearms
  • The Perfect Villain
  • Own Up When You Mess Up
  • How You Act After the Fact Determines Your Fate
  • No Short Way to the Summit
  • Glen Is Grumpy about It
  • Ed Bacon, Perfect Storm of Misery
  • Mount Lafayette

044 John Nores and the California Bear Poaching Case

From the Nancy Foley podcast stemmed a conversation with John about a bear poaching case that needed exploration.  John and Wayne discuss a case in California that started as a small time investigation of bear poaching that lead to convictions on numerous game and firearm violations. The case expanded into a large scale illegal guiding service and John went undercover to crack the case wide open.

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  • The California Case
  • The Fires, The Back Country is Burning
  • Cartel Marijuana Operation A Holy Grail Wildlife Case
  • Wild Hogs to Black Pair Poaching
  • Chipper, a Career Poacher, and a Cartel Grow
  • No Guide License, with a Business Card
  • Anxious to Make that Case, Timing is Everything
  • Patience, Let the Case Develop
  • Covert Surveillance
  • An Undercover Bear Hunt
  • More and More Accomplices
  • Monster Black Bear in Cali – No Hibernation
  • Not Grabbing the Low Hanging Fruit
  • 3 Season with a Houndsman
  • Breaking Bread, In Camp, Undercover
  • Getting into their Comfort Zone
  • Convicted Felony with a Firearm, Among Many other Charges
  • Wild Justice Started Just After, Hard to Go Undercover
  • Mourning the Loss of Ability to Go UC
  • That’s My Bear
  • How Long Do You Work a Case?
  • MET was Built Shortly Thereafter
  • Excited More Than Normal
  • Easter Egg Search Warrant
  • The Bragging was All True
  • Park Rangers
  • The Giant Sequoias and the Sherman Tree

043 Dennis Amsden – Vermont Fish and Wildlife Game Warden

Dennis Amsden was a Lieutenant and Game Warden with the Vermont Fish and Wildlife Service.  Dennis served with the Vermont Fish and Wildlife for 20 years and was involved in many cases over the years, from the high profile media cases to the everyday poaching incident. He shares with us his journey over his career, shares details about several memorable investigations, and hints on where he’d like to go in retirement.

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Here’s What We Discuss:

  • Operation Game Thief – Stealing Video Games
  • From a Family Not into Outdoor Sporting
  • A Subscription to Outdoor Life
  • Moving to Dixie When Retirement Comes
  • Trouble Over Enthusiasm
  • I Hope Glen Lucas is Listening
  • Nobody Becomes a Game Warden for Paperwork
  • Greater St Johnsbury Area
  • Seeing All the Warden’s Work as a Supervisor
  • First Memorable Case
  • Video Tape Date Stamps
  • A Warrant and Experienced Wardens
  • Other Criminal Activities Overlap Poaching
  • 5lbs of Marijuana
  • Leaving a Decoy Out Overnight
  • Another Case on Lake Champlain
  • Walleye and Ducks – Game Laws and Keeping Up
  • High Profile Case – Investigating a Shooting
  • An ATV and Voices
  • Less and Less Poaching Being Handing Down by Generation
  • You Get More Info By Making Friends, First Name Basis
  • A Rich Man from Experience
  • It’s Not all Tickets and Handcuffs
  • 3am Wake Ups, Spouses, Kids
  • Search and Rescue and Training