056 The Case of Kate Matrosova Part III Featuring Mark Ober, Bob Mancini, and Matt Holmes

At 32 years old, Kate Matrosova hiked the Presidential Mountain Range of the White Mountains in New Hampshire carrying light gear for a day hike. Unfortunately, she never made it out alive. Rescue teams attempted to reach her after she activated her communications device, but to no avail. Kate Matrosova was discovered a day later. 

Lieutenant Mark Ober is the Lieutenant for District 1 with the New Hampshire Fish and Game. He frequently responds to hikers in distress and develops search and rescue missions to find them. He is also a member of the New Hampshire Fish and Game Dive Team. In this episode, he discusses the mission to find Kate, the difficulties surrounding it, and his role as a supervisor.

Bob Mancini is an award-winning Conservation Officer in New Hampshire. He has been a member of the advanced search & rescue team, dive team, honor guard team and K-9 team. He was also a regular on Northwoods Law. He speaks of his role in the rescue for Kate.

Matt Holmes is a New Hampshire Fish and Game Conservation Officer. He was also a regular on Northwoods Law, and is part of rescue operations. In this episode, he discusses the attempted resume of Kate Matrosova with the rest of the rescue team.

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Here’s What We Discuss:

  • The return of John Nores
  • Q and A on April 26th via Patreon!
  • Start of Lt. Mark Ober interview
  • Matt and Bob: goal to get to coordinates
  • Half mile off trail to get to coordinates, meet with MRS team
  • Too cold to function 
  • Matt and Bob stay for backup, MRS team moves in 
  • When she wasn’t found at coordinates, everyone moves back down
  • Start of Bob Mancini interview
  • Decided to patrol on snowmobile 
  • Raced back to get essential gear
  • Disbelief of how someone could be out
  • My “Oh Shit!” bag
  • Forgot to change my socks
  • We were prepared to do what was required
  • Utilized snowmobiles and then hiked
  • Fight the inner demons to try and save a life
  • Propane in stove froze 
  • Hot water would have been like hitting the lottery
  • Should have slowed down and been a better teammate
  • Matt’s headlamp
  • Wayne’s rule: don’t call me the night before
  • Stay on scene on the trail, MRS goes to beacon
  • Loud and steady wind
  • Even if we knew where she was, it might have been a critical incident
  • Kate was an accomplished hiker
  • Gear has became better
  • Start of Matt Holmes interview
  • Predicted to be bad weather for a while
  • On snowmobile patrolling all day
  • Coldest and most dangerous rescue
  • Eyes are on the mountains 
  • Wind blowing over the summits
  • Glad to be in my cruiser 
  • At first I was angry: salt in an open wound
  • Carrying gear for overnight stays
  • Sun goes down, temperature goes down
  • Glen’s issues: it wasn’t his night 
  • Matt was the leader of the operation
  • We had to function as a team to do things we usually did alone
  • One team to bushwack to point, another on the trail
  • Barely got stoves lit, water couldn’t boil
  • All layers were on
  • If something went wrong, will have to build a shelter
  • Nobody wanted to stop
  • MRS team stayed, the rest moved out
  • I feel good about what we did
  • Plenty of reasons to not send anyone that night
  • Feelings softened toward Kate over time
  • Perfect storm of cold and wind

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Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores

Producer: Jay Ammann

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046 Matt Holmes Part II – The OHRV Crash

Matt Holmes, a NH Fish and Game Conservation Officer and regular on North Woods Law, jumps in the pick up truck with Wayne to talk more about Matt’s career as a Game Warden.  They discuss in detail Matt’s OHRV crash that occurred in June 2020 while on radar patrol.  Special narration and commentary from Bob Mancini.

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Here’s What We Discuss:

  • Evolution of OHRV Riding in NH
  • The North Woods Law Crew
  • The Bear that Killed the Chickens
  • A Errant Discharge of a High Power Rifle
  • 2 Vehicle Crash, Running Radar
  • Connecting with Bob Mancini
  • 2 Side By Sides at Excessive Speed
  • Blue Lights On
  • A Red and White Collision
  • Did I Break My Back? Can I Breath?
  • Familiar Faces in the ER
  • Pain Level
  • Physical Therapy and Back to Work
  • My Favorite Trainee
  • Just Wanted to Clarify that Your Not From Maine

045 Matt Holmes – Part I

057 The Case of Kate Matrosova Part IV Featuring Guest Interviewer Ty Gagne Warden's Watch

Kate Matrosova was a highly experienced hiker from Southern Siberia, Russia. She came to America on a student visa and successfully graduated with a masters degree in Financial Engineering. Though she worked for many firms on Wall Street, she also had a passion for the outdoors. She had a passion for climbing big mountains such as Kilimanjaro and McKinley, and was an active marathon runner. At 32 years old, she hiked the Presidential Mountain Range of the White Mountains in New Hampshire carrying light gear for a day hike. Unfortunately, she never made it out alive. The weather conditions reached -85F and 141 MPH winds. Rescue teams attempted to reach her after she activated her communications device, but to no avail. Kate Matrosova was discovered a day later. Ty Gagne is the CEO of Primex, a public entity risk pool based in New Hampshire, and is also a certified wilderness first responder. He wrote the book Where You’ll Find Me about Kate’s experiences and those who were a part of her recovery. In this podcast, he interviewed Wayne and asked him about his experiences as a supervisor over the search and rescue mission for Kate. Lieutenant Mark Ober is the Lieutenant for District 1 with the New Hampshire Fish and Game. He frequently responds to hikers in distress and develops search and rescue missions to find them. He is also a member of the New Hampshire Fish and Game Dive Team. In this episode, he discusses the mission to find Kate, the difficulties surrounding it, and his role as a supervisor. Our Sponsors: Thin Green Line Podcast Hunt of a Lifetime Maine's Operation Game Thief NH Wildlife Heritage International Wildlife Crime Stoppers Here's What We Discuss: – Guest interviewer: Ty Gagne – The best learning is from the ground up – The game warden is in charge of the search and rescue – Pass on shortcuts – Own up to your decisions – Wind is a huge factor – Dragging my feet based on my instincts – Don’t call me at night – I don’t sleep – Continuation of interview with Mark Ober – Constantly on the phone – Ordered a command post – 5am to 8am is peak prepare time – Many acronyms in search and rescues – Would have never reached Kate safely – Intent is key – Everything was in her pack, not blown away – Sunny day, whiteout on the mountain peaks – There's more people like Kate – I made mistakes that other people made – Continuation of Wayne’s interview – No intention of going home – Command posts were rocking from the wind – Great relationships with local departments – It's easy to look at a map and make assignments – Even highly skilled people can get in trouble Credits Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores Producer: Jay Ammann Social Media/Marketing: Morgan Day Find More Here: Website Patreon Apple Podcasts Spotify Facebook Facebook Group Instagram Tik Tok Twitter Spreadshirt Stitcher Tunein Libsyn YouTube RSS Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Matt Holmes, a NH Fish and Game Conservation Officer and regular on North Woods Law, jumps in the pick up truck with Wayne this week to talk about Matt’s career as a Game Warden.  Wayne and Matt go way back and have lots of stories to tell on this episode.

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Here’s What We Discuss:

  • Shooting and teaching hunter safety
  • Not loosing face with the court
  • Integrity
  • A Short Burst of Automatic Fire
  • Losing a Wheel on the Cruiser
  • A Repeater and the Cats Out of the Bag
  • I’m Not from Maine, Despite the NH Accent
  • Typing Skills, Old Fashion Man in Modern World
  • Driving with Code 3
  • Robert’s Brook Washout
  • We All Bring a Skill Set
  • Multiple Does in Parts and 22 Bullets
  • Irate Because a Deer Was Wasted
  • Hit Em, Hit Em Simultaneously
  • A White Suite and Moose Necropsy
  • Only One Party Didn’t Return the 2nd Weekend
  • Mass Residence Listing Their Firearms
  • The Perfect Villain
  • Own Up When You Mess Up
  • How You Act After the Fact Determines Your Fate
  • No Short Way to the Summit
  • Glen Is Grumpy about It
  • Ed Bacon, Perfect Storm of Misery
  • Mount Lafayette