163 Larry Hergenroeder – Pennsylvania

From growing up with a game warden father to leading investigations, Staff Sergeant and canine handler Larry Hergenroeder has seen it all—and loved every minute of it. In this episode, Larry shares why he believes being a game warden is “the coolest job on earth,” how his canine partners have cracked cases in record time, and why networking through NAWEOA matters more than ever.

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Here’s what we discuss:

  • Growing up in western Pennsylvania and finding his calling
  • “I had game warden blood in my blood.”
  • From Montana guide school to the academy
  • “My only regret is losing those years I could have been doing this full-time.”
  • Why being a game warden is more than a job
  • “I live, eat, sleep, breathe this profession… I just want to be a game warden.”
  • The power of NAWEOA networking and lifelong friendships
  • “I haven’t had a month go by without a call from another state or province.”
  • K9 program success stories: Storm and Rio crack tough cases
  • “In 33 seconds, Storm found the evidence that solved a fatal shooting.”
  • Challenge coins and the stories behind them
  • Inspiring the next generation of wardens through conferences and mentorship
  • Hunting-related shooting incidents and the emotional side of the job
  • “One is one too many.”
  • Family, sacrifice, and the brotherhood of game wardens
  • “A profession sought by many, held by few, and only made possible by those family members that know the true meaning of sacrifice.”

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Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores

Producer: Jay Ammann

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Research / Content Coordinator: Stacey DesRoches

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152 – 2025 International Game Warden Conference

For the third time, we were able to sit down at the International Game Warden Conference held this year in Erie, Pennsylvania, with Game Warden Chris Gilkey of Ohio, Game Warden Kris McCabe of the Maine Warden Service, myself, Wayne Saunders, host of the Warden’s Watch podcast, and Game Warden Andy Hueser of the Pennsylvania Game Commission who was also instrumental in the organization and implementation of this year’s conference. Tune in for a lively conversation!

137 KP Boatright – Georgia DNR

Despite having been on the job since just 2020, Georgia Game Warden KP Boatright has received multiple accolades, including the Public Safety Act of Heroism award for rescuing a drowning hunter at great personal risk. We caught up with KP as he accepted the prestigious NAWEOA Torch Award, presented to new officers who demonstrate exceptional ability and initiative. Join us for a chat with another rising star from Georgia DNR!

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Here’s what we discuss:

·       NAWEOA Torch Award winner

·       Using social media for investigations

·       A suspicious alligator trapper leads to multiple charges

·       “The Swiss Army knife of law enforcement.”

·       Assisting fellow law enforcement officers

·       An online aptitude test suggests a career path

·       “Boneheaded” teenage behavior causes a slight delay

·       A supportive chain of command

·       The importance of different perspectives

·       People generally want to talk if you make them comfortable

·       An upcoming wedding!

·       The ‘dead’ alligator that blinked

·       “You never know what you’re gonna come across.”

·       Lake Seminole: Georgia’s best kept secret

Credits

Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores

Producer: Jay Ammann

Warden’s Watch logo & Design: Ashley Hannett

Research / Content Coordinator: Stacey DesRoches

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132 Drew Milne – British Columbia, Canada

While deployed with the Canadian Armed Forces, Drew Milne picked up a book that inspired him to pursue his true calling and a new career as a conservation officer. Now, after almost two decades and multiple honors, he oversees the beautiful South Coast region of British Columbia, Canada, and teaches at the Western Conservation Law Enforcement Academy. We sit down with Drew at NAWEOA as he shares his passion for helping both recruits and field officers hone their skills through use of force training and de-escalation methods.

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Here’s what we discuss:

  • Changing careers after six years with the CAF
  • Joined as a seasonal officer in 2008
  • Three years assisting another agency in establishing a new enforcement wing
  • Learned about a park warden’s job while in a tank in Bosnia
  • An encounter with a CO back in Canada
  • Horseback in the Rocky Mountains: hang onto your hat!
  • A life-changing confrontation
  • Learning to lower the temperature
  • Body language matters as much as dialog
  • British Columbia’s CO uniform
  • The path to becoming a BC Conservation Officer
  • Worked at the 2010 Winter Olympics
  • The Yukon: helicopters, float planes, snowmobiles and wildlife
  • A sheep poaching case solved by lichen in a photo
  • BC’s Use of Force lead trainer – sharing lessons learned
  • Remaining calm and respectful, even in tense moments
  • “Who cares what happened before? Now is now.”
  • Personal connections are critical

Credits

Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores

Producer: Jay Ammann

Warden’s Watch logo & Design: Ashley Hannett

Research / Content Coordinator: Stacey DesRoches

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131 Live from NAWEOA – with Drew Milne (BC), Kris MacCabe (ME) & Chris Gilkey (OH)

This episode finds us live at NAWEOA 2024 in in beautiful Penticton, BC with Maine’s Kris MacCabe, Chris Gilkey from Ohio, and Drew Milne of British Columbia, Canada. The guys sit down for a lively roundtable talk about their respective states and provinces, the beauty surrounding them, and of course, the incredible experience that is NAWEOA.

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Here’s what we discuss:

  • Grizzlies, rams… and musk ox?
  • A forest fire to the southwest
  • Bears across the continent
  • British Columbia’s strict bear hunting laws
  • Much of BC is public land, filled with wildlife
  • Ohio has far fewer bears
  • Some people love BC bears, others very much do not
  • Connecting and learning at NAWEOA
  • Sharing commonalities and differences
  • NAWEOA 2025: Erie, Pennsylvania
  • The many microclimates of British Columbia
  • “The Napa Valley of Canada.”
  • Canadians really are that friendly
  • Tim Hortons, maple syrup, Cheezies, and poutine
  • “You guys don’t have Smarties?”
  • Chris’ poutine plan: The Gilkey
  • NAWEOA in one word
  • Camaraderie, connection, and family   
  • Snakes!

Credits

Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores

Producer: Jay Ammann

Warden’s Watch logo & Design: Ashley Hannett

Research / Content Coordinator: Stacey DesRoches

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127 Jason Blaylock – Mississippi

With record-high wildlife populations, Mississippi’s generous bag limits make it an attractive destination for hunters of all kinds, and game wardens are busy almost year-round. After 23 years with the Mississippi Department of Wildlife, Fisheries and Parks (MDWFP), Lt. Jason Blaylock has made substantial contributions to wildlife conservation and law enforcement in the Magnolia State, and was recently named the National Wild Turkey Federation Conservation Officer of the Year by the MDWFP. Lt. Blaylock joined us at NAWEOA.

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Here’s what we discuss:

  • Mississippi wardens are busy with game issues for much of the year
  • Working the famous river
  • Close to 200 officers in MS
  • Passing knowledge to the next generation of officers
  • Teaching methods have changed with technology advancements
  • Started school in a pre-med program
  • “I can’t see myself not being outside.”
  • A coincidence that led to a career
  • Many rural game wardens are ‘the’ local law enforcement
  • Opening day is like Christmas
  • Snakes!
  • MS game wardens used to sell licenses from their trucks and homes
  • Bag limits in Mississippi
  • No deer tags required
  • 250+ spotlighting cases
  • 13-year-old night hunters
  • Thanksgiving 2017: an unforgettable night hunting case
  • The repeat, repeat, repeat young offender
  • Suppressors are becoming more common in MS
  • Technology advancements are changing the way game wardens do business
  • The diversity of Mississippi provides a multitude of opportunities

Credits

Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores

Producer: Jay Ammann

Art & Design: Ashley Hannett

Research / Content Coordinator: Stacey DesRoches

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120 Marshall Nych – International Game Warden Magazine

Since its inception in 1984, International Game Warden Magazine has become known as the industry standard trade publication for wildlife professionals worldwide. Published in association with the North American Wildlife Enforcement Officers Association (NAWEOA), each quarterly issue is jam packed with features ranging from emerging technologies and detailed case investigations to book reviews and recipes. In this episode, editor Marshall Nych highlights some of the first-rate content you’ll receive when you subscribe.

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Here’s what we discuss:

  • Submitted first story to the magazine in 2010
  • Joined IGW staff in 2015, became editor in 2021
  • Full-time teacher, part-time Deputy Game Warden (Ret.)
  • Game wardens have the best stories, they just need to be told
  • Each issue has a theme
  • Regular features include:
    • Front Lines
    • Behind the Badge
    • Timber-Tech
    • Technology Toolbox
    • Voices From Abroad
    • Marshall Law
    • International Digest
    • book reviews, agency profiles, wild game recipes, and more!
  • Available in both hard copy and digital subscriptions
  • Anyone can subscribe on the IGWM website

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Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores

Producer: Jay Ammann

Art & Design: Ashley Hannett

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110 – Ethan Justinger (Utah) and Chris Gilkey (Ohio) talk NAWEOA

After a short summer break, Warden’s Watch picks things up with a look back at NAWEOA 2023 with Ohio Wildlife Officer Chris Gilkey, and Utah’s Ethan Justinger. Now called the International Game Warden Association, this year’s conference was held in beautiful Provo, Utah in early July, with a jam-packed schedule of activities that included a wide variety of training, speakers, and fun for the whole family.  

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Here’s what we discuss:

  • Game wardens watch – but it’s rough on binoculars
  • The value of conferences
  • “Everybody is on the same page.”
  • Utah conference provided activities for the entire family
  • What is VirTra training?
  • “All it takes is one” visit to NAWEOA
  • Awards are a humbling experience
  • Youth Room kept kids safe and entertained
  • Speakers were both interesting and inspirational
  • Keynote speaker Brody Young
  • Mindfulness training with Jeff Jones
  • “You are not alone.”
  • Scenarios can be recreated, but there’s no substitute for sharing lived experience
  • Bill Livezey, author of Let’s Go For A Ride
  • Tracking migration patterns through collaring
  • * Apache touch and go interlude *
  • K9 training demonstration
  • The annual Torch Run supporting the North American Game Warden Museum
  • Mickey Mouse pancakes
  • Game Warden skills competition; antler toss, fish drop, trivia, and fun
  • The ‘Warden Spawn’ youth team
  • NAWEOA 2023 in one word
  • Train hard, play hard, work hard
  • See you next year in British Columbia, Canada!

Credits

Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores

Producer: Jay Ammann

Art & Design: Ashley Hannett

Research / Content Coordinator: Stacey DesRoches

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102 David Holt – Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency

With almost 27 million acres across the state, the officers of Tennessee’s Wildlife Resources Agency have a lot of ground to cover. Any given day could include fish and wildlife law enforcement, safety checks, search and rescue on land or water, conducting outreach programs, and more. Join us as we sit down at NAWEOA with Boating Enforcement Officer David Holt, who’s been patrolling the waterways of eastern Tennessee since 2017, and has some stories to tell!

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Here’s what we discuss:

  • Live from NAWEOA
  • Delayed honeymoon for hunting season
  • A mysterious message from the water company
  • Unplanned home renovations
  • The path to becoming a game warden
  • The rookie
  • A wild stolen yacht chase
  • The thief tried to create swells to sink the patrol boat
  • Apprehended when the yacht ran aground
  • Chase was filmed by a drone pilot
  • Patrol boat looked like a dot next to the giant yacht
  • “Designated Skipper”

Credits

Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores

Producer: Jay Ammann

Art & Design: Ashley Hannett

Research / Content Coordinator: Stacey DesRoches

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90 Josh Landrum – Tennessee

Josh Landrum is a Nashville-based Boating Officer with the Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency. Besides receiving multiple honors for his tireless efforts to combat impaired boating, he has also served on the board of the Tennessee Wildlife Officers Association for the past decade, and most recently as president. This year, Josh and his fellow officers hosted the annual North American Wildlife Enforcement Officers Association (NAWEOA) conference, where Wayne and John caught up with him for a chat.  

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Here’s what we discuss:

  • Hosting NAWEOA 2022
  • Learning, training, and networking at NAWEOA
  • Encouraging the younger generation of game wardens to attend
  • A love of fishing led to a career in wildlife management
  • An urban game warden
  • Some of the largest deer in the state
  • Working to eliminate impaired boating
  • You never know who you’ll meet
  • Enjoying all that Nashville has to offer
  • NAWEOA 2023: Utah

Credits

Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores

Producer: Jay Ammann

Art & Design: Ashley Hannett

Content Coordinator: Stacey DesRoches

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