Category: 2021

Here’s What We Discuss:

The return of John Nores
Q and A on April 26th via Patreon!
Start of Lt. Mark Ober interview
Matt and Bob: goal to get to coordinates
Half mile off trail to get to coordinates, meet with MRS team
Too cold to function
Matt and Bob stay for backup, MRS team moves in
When she wasn’t found at coordinates, everyone moves back down
Start of Bob Mancini interview
Decided to patrol on snowmobile
Raced back to get essential gear
Disbelief of how someone could be out
My “Oh Shit!” bag
Forgot to change my socks
We were prepared to do what was required
Utilized snowmobiles and then hiked
Fight the inner demons to try and save a life
Propane in stove froze
Hot water would have been like hitting the lottery
Should have slowed down and been a better teammate
Matt’s headlamp
Wayne’s rule: don’t call me the night before
Stay on scene on the trail, MRS goes to beacon
Loud and steady wind
Even if we knew where she was, it might have been a critical incident
Kate was an accomplished hiker
Gear has became better
Start of Matt Holmes interview
Predicted to be bad weather for a while
On snowmobile patrolling all day
Coldest and most dangerous rescue
Eyes are on the mountains
Wind blowing over the summits
Glad to be in my cruiser
At first I was angry: salt in an open wound
Carrying gear for overnight stays
Sun goes down, temperature goes down
Glen’s issues: it wasn’t his night
Matt was the leader of the operation
We had to function as a team to do things we usually did alone
One team to bushwack to point, another on the trail
Barely got stoves lit, water couldn’t boil
All layers were on
If something went wrong, will have to build a shelter
Nobody wanted to stop
MRS team stayed, the rest moved out
I feel good about what we did
Plenty of reasons to not send anyone that night
Feelings softened toward Kate over time
Perfect storm of cold and wind

Credits

Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores

Producer: Jay Ammann

Social Media/Marketing: Morgan Day

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055 The Case of Kate Matrosova Part II featuring Lt. Mark Ober and CO Glen Lucas

Posted on March 11, 2021June 22, 2021 by nhfishcop10

Kate Matrosova was a highly experienced hiker from Southern Siberia, Russia. She came to America on a student visa and successfully graduated with a masters degree in Financial Engineering. Though she worked for many firms on Wall Street, she also had a passion for the outdoors. She had a passion for climbing big mountains such as Kilimanjaro and McKinley, and was an active marathon runner. At 32 years old, she hiked the Presidential Mountain Range of the White Mountains in New Hampshire carrying light gear for a day hike. Unfortunately, she never made it out alive. The weather conditions reached -85F and 141 MPH winds. Rescue teams attempted to reach her after she activated her communications device, but to no avail. Kate Matrosova was discovered a day later.

Conservation Officer Glen Lucas of the New Hampshire Fish and Game is part of the snowmobile patrol and is an experienced outdoorsman. He was also a part of multiple storylines with the show Northwoods law. He shares his experiences on the day of Kate’s disappearance, including the struggles of preparing, the decision making of the day, and the lasting impacts it had on his life.

Here’s What We Discuss:

New addition the podcasting team: Morgan Day
Patreon event: live Q and A on April 26th at 8pm EST
The importance of speaking about painful memories
More of a recovery mission than a rescue
Cannot rely on personal locator devices
Bad weather day; snowmobile crash earlier
We have to at least try
Temperature at start of hike: -90 with wind chill
Three separate beacons miles apart
Glen comes down
Ty Gagne helped me answer questions I had myself
Everyone was hustling to get there
Game Warden wife mode
Not a normal rescue mission
My mistake: dressing normal
Legs start locking up, toes are freezing
Glen stays behind, the others continue up
Leans up against the tree to wait for other volunteers
This is how I find people
I felt like I had peg legs; I didn’t want to die here
Mother nature beat me that time
Game wardens promote drive, we don’t want to show weakness
I didn’t read the book, I gave it away
I wanted to distance myself from the story, but I read it
After the reports done, I’m done
The book signing was therapeutic
The supervisors decision at the base, the teams on the mountain
Kate is the first one I had a connection with

054 The Case of Kate Matrosova featuring Ty Gagne

Posted on February 25, 2021June 22, 2021 by nhfishcop10

Ty Gagne is the CEO of Primex, a public entity risk pool based in New Hampshire, and is also a certified wilderness first responder. He wrote the book Where You’ll Find Me about Kate’s experiences and those who were a part of her recovery. In this podcast, he discusses his own personal involvement in the outdoors, his perspective on Kate’s case, and how he wrote the book.

Here’s What We Discuss:

The book Where You Will Find Me
Ty and Wayne’s experience with hiking
The easy mistakes of hiking
The beginning of Kate’s story
The White Mountains
Challenges of winter hiking
The conditions of Kate’s hike
Her plan and the issues around it
Kate’s drive to succeed
The group that got her out
The issue with personal location devices
Ty’s interviews with on-scene wardens
The drive of law enforcement and how to keep them safe
Mental health of volunteers and law enforcement
The changes at altitude
Retracing Kate’s story for a book
The good out of a tragedy

053 Carlos Gomez – Oklahoma Department of Wildlife – Part II

Posted on February 11, 2021June 22, 2021 by nhfishcop10

Carlos Gomez, a retired Game Warden for the Oklahoma Department of Wildlife, sits down with Wayne in the continuation of his interview. Though now retired after a 41 year career, Carlos is still an active outdoorsman and a member of the National Wild Turkey Federation. In this episode, they discuss cases Carlos has been involved with and his interactions with other wardens.

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Here’s What We Discuss:

International Game Warden Magazine
Operation Cody
Interactions and cases with Todd A. Vandivert
The money-maker case
When to bluff
The praying poacher
Keeping the racks, donating the meat
16 deer, 3 county warrants
Enjoy the cuffs
Poacher suicide

Credits
Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores
Producer/Editor: Jay Scott Ammann
Social Media/Marketing: Morgan Day

052 Carlos Gomez – Oklahoma Department of Wildlife

Posted on January 28, 2021June 22, 2021 by nhfishcop10

Carlos Gomez spent 41 years as a game warden in the Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation – 34 years serving Tulsa County and 7 years serving in Oklahoma County. He is the only game warden in Oklahoma’s history to spend his entire career in urban areas. Despite this, his time was filled with hunting and fishing interactions, as well as education of the public. In his retirement, he actively enjoys the outdoors and regularly attends meetings with conservation clubs.

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Here’s What We Discuss:

Wayne’s experience with Oklahoma
Carlos’s energy
Operation Jersey
Undercover turtles
Wildlife war with China
Importance of prosecution
Judge shopping
Educate and build relationships with violators
Game wardens are hunters too
Interactions with Tiger King
Stolen polar bear
Carlos’s deer case
Stay tuned for part two!

051 Brian Albert – Maryland DNR

Posted on January 7, 2021June 22, 2021 by nhfishcop10

After 28 years, Capt. Brian Albert has retired, but that doesn’t mean he’s done working. Brian spent time in the Air Force and then became a Ranger with Maryland’s Eastern Shore. He also worked as a Public Information Officer and was in charge of a criminal investigations division during his career. Despite retirement, Brian is heavily involved with Maryland’s International Wildlife Crimestoppers and other conservation organizations.

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