153 Murder in Morgan County – with Kirk Kiefer

In July 2021, a peaceful family camping trip in Ohio’s vast Appalachian Hills Wilderness Area turned into a chilling crime scene. Two lives were lost, and a community was shaken. In this gripping episode, we sit down with ODNR Investigator Kirk Kiefer to uncover the layers of a complex and haunting double homicide.

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Here’s what we discuss:

  • Investigator Keifer appeared in a previous episode
  • International Game Warden Association Officer of the Year
  • ODNR’s nomination submission
  • The ‘ginseng detective’
  • Nomination was kept secret!
  • A missing persons / suspicious activity report on State land
  • The couple’s phones – and daughter – were left behind
  • Suspect claimed the couple had gone to CA and were expected back
  • A concerned camper contacted ODNR
  • The couple’s license plate had recently been checked on the Interstate
  • Suspect had a ‘tell.’
  • “He was convinced I was a human lie detector.”
  • The sudden confession: “I killed ‘em.”
  • Killings had happened 13 days prior
  • Suspect led investigators to the bodies
  • Defense attorney admitted there was no defense to be mounted
  • Claimed he was ‘rescuing’ the child
  • Body cameras were used in case the suspect did not testify
  • Appeared to feel badly about killing the female.
  • “Sometimes there is no ‘why’.”
  • Never expected to be investigating homicide
  • Attended the couple’s memorial services
  • Inter-agency cooperation was key to this case
  • Killer received two automatic life terms with no parole

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Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores

Producer: Jay Ammann

Warden’s Watch logo & Design: Ashley Hannett

Research / Content Coordinator: Stacey DesRoches

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124 Kandy Klosterman – Ohio

From humble beginnings fishing the tranquil lakes of Ohio to her current position as Chief of Law Enforcement for the Ohio Department of Natural Resources Wildlife Division, Kandy Klosterman is no stranger to blazing trails. As the state’s pioneering female wildlife investigator, she spearheaded numerous high-profile cases, earning multiple accolades along the way – including the prestigious Guy Bradley Award for lifetime contributions to wildlife law enforcement. With a career spanning nearly three decades, her commitment to safeguarding Ohio’s natural resources, mentoring the next generation of officers, and championing the inclusion of women in wildlife conservation sets the standard for excellence. We can’t wait to see what she does next!

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Here’s what we discuss:

  • Accepted Chief of Law Enforcement position in June 2023
  • Grew up fishing and hunting with her grandfather in Ohio
  • Mentors are essential
  • “You’re not born with a shotgun or fishing rod in your hand.”
  • Worked mowing grass on ODNR property
  • “I want to be a wildlife officer!”
  • Volunteering led to a part-time position
  • Only woman in the Academy in 1998
  • Mentoring the next generation of officers
  • All staff take part in educating new cadets
  • 1920s saw the first female wildlife officer in Ohio
  • 15 female officers in 120 years, but more all the time
  • Early career involved several areas of the state
  • Wildlife investigator for 21 years
  • Adventures in undercover work
  • Ohio’s Women Officers of Wildlife group
  • Female Wildlife Officers in OH wore men’s uniforms until the mid-90s
  • Ohio DNR organization and command structure
  • Nearly three-decade career
  • Statewide working groups: “I don’t have to know everything.”
  • Leveraging drone capabilities
  • Plans to expand Search & Rescue
  • Accreditation program for outfitters and guides
  • A fraudulent interstate outfitter case
  • Encouraging the next generation of female WOs
  • “Someone taught you, now you need to teach them.”
  • Working with cadets brings you back to your roots

Credits

Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores

Producer: Jay Ammann

Art & Design: Ashley Hannett

Research / Content Coordinator: Stacey DesRoches

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