116 Deadly Harvest – With Kevin Behr

In Appalachian Ohio and beyond, ginseng hunting is a centuries-old tradition. Prized for its medicinal value and prestige, American ginseng was one of America’s first exports to the Far East. Today, highly regulated but harvested to near extinction, its value has only increased, setting the stage for a black market that often results in arrests, prison time, and tragedy.

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Here’s what we discuss:

  • Kevin’s ongoing recovery and recent activities
  • Investigation began in Ohio in 2012, when a family reported an overdue hiker
  • Bobby Joe Grubbs had been dropped off for a walk, but did not return
  • Grubbs was known to police
  • Sherrif’s office pinged cell phone
  • Phone was located on 87-year-old Joseph Kutter’s property
  • Property owner gave police permission to search, but nothing was found
  • Cell phone had dialed 911 but disconnected
  • Kutter’s property featured a meticulously tended ginseng patch
  • A second search was launched using cadaver dogs
  • Dogs alerted on a loader bucket
  • Kutter immediately confessed to shooting Grubbs
  • Claimed Grubbs was stealing ginseng
  • A confrontation ensued and Kutter fired his weapon
  • Kutter then moved the body twice in the following days
  • Autopsy revealed ginseng in Grubbs’ pockets – and a business card
  • Grubbs had called family to report finding “the mother lode” of ginseng
  • Kutter pled guilty to voluntary manslaughter
  • Case highlights the mindsets of both ginseng growers and poachers
  • Easy money from ginseng often funds drug habits
  • Ginseng hunting (and poaching) can be a way of life passed down through generations
  • Black market is unnervingly similar to the drug trade

Credits

Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores

Producer: Jay Ammann

Art & Design: Ashley Hannett

Research / Content Coordinator: Stacey DesRoches

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114  Operation “Root of All Evil” with Kirk Kiefer – Ohio

Kirk Kiefer has been a wildlife investigator with the Ohio Department of Natural Resources for the past 15 years. In this episode, he walks us through Operation “Root of All Evil,” a lengthy and complex investigation into the illegal ginseng trade that spanned multiple states, included unmarked vehicles, extended surveillance, buys and sales by undercover officers, and even a fake business.

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Here’s what we discuss:

  • Wild ginseng root is highly valued for its perceived medicinal properties
  • Grows very slowly, taking up to five years to reach maturity
  • One pound can be worth up to $1000
  • Seeds take over a year to germinate
  • Information campaign helped educate stakeholders on the damage caused by poaching
  • Many poachers are involved in other illegal activities
  • Legal ginseng plants must have three leaf sets, or ‘prongs’
  • Case also had multiple prongs
  • Prong 1: Undercover officers sold ginseng to licensed dealers
  • Compared the amount sold to the amount reported
  • Officers then sold ginseng outside the buying season to confirm illegal intent
  • Prong 2: Coordinated with US Fish & Wildlife Service to create a fake business
  • Business would receive inquiries from those looking to buy and sell illegal product
  • Prong 3: Obtain offenders’ assistance in exchange for a reduced penalty
  • Task force worked in multiple states
  • One offender had been featured on a popular reality show
  • The television show actually helped educate the public about ginseng poaching
  • Many countries overseas have decimated indigenous flora and fauna, creating a black market
  • 110 defendants received multiple charges
  • Nearly six years of jail time served, $77,000 in fines
  • Kirk’s background; jack of all trades
  • Trapping academy
  • State officers were made aware of the ginseng operation
  • “Giving a little bit, we received a lot.”
  • Not all states have Wildlife Investigators
  • State of Ohio has done some major operations
  • Ginseng awareness for stakeholders training began in 2015
  • Operation takedown day finally arrived in 2022

Credits

Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores

Producer: Jay Ammann

Art & Design: Ashley Hannett

Research / Content Coordinator: Stacey DesRoches

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